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Hey guys,

I want to dumb my old computer and buy a complete new system. That's the problem.
it's been about 2 years since i've last bought hardware for my system and since then i didn't really cared about the new stuff.
I don't really have a clue about the stuff which is currently on the market.

I'm having a budget of ~1.000€ and would like to setup a custom system from scratch.
It should be a fast system which can do ressource hungry processes like rendering 3d models in a fast paste and ofc allow me to play current games on the market with high settings. It doesn't have to be powerful enough to play games of the next year with HD settings.

Case, Coolingfan, Harddrive+SSD, power supply and CD/DVD/Blueray drive are things that i can take care of on my own without spending too much money here. So what i really need are:

Mainboard
Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H

CPU
Xeon E3-1231 v3 / Intel Core i5 4690K

Internal Memory
Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8,0 GByte Kit DDR3-1600

Videocard
Powercolor R9 280X TurboDuo OC

The currently listed things are from a german website called "gamestar". They suggest this set-up for a 1.000€ system to be the best price/performance that you can get for the money but i doubt that this is the truth.

I'm happy with any kind of help that i can get.

That setup looks nice, if oyu want to OC at some point, if that Xeon is unlocked it's probably better for that.

Another thing you can argue is the GPU, but if I were you, I'd actually go with that one you have there, the option would be to go with 760/770GTX

I'd go with this setup with your budjet

* CPU: i7 4970K ~300€ (case of streaming, videoediting, OC) / i5-4670K ~220€
* Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~110€
* GPU: R9 280X ASUS DCU2 / ASUS GTX770DC2 OC both around 320€
+ other shits with ~400€

http://www.computerbase.de/forum/showth ... p?t=215394

for 3d render everything but maya likes amd more so the r9 280/290 is best choice then

btw if you can wait like 4-6 weeks more you will spare around 100-150 euro cause nvidia releases maxwell ( gtx 880 and so on )

"allow me to play current games on the market with high settings. It doesn't have to be powerful enough to play games of the next year with HD settings."

I'd say the system is overkill for what you say you need.

Xensation wrote:"allow me to play current games on the market with high settings. It doesn't have to be powerful enough to play games of the next year with HD settings."

I'd say the system is overkill for what you say you need.

And as i stated before, i don't really have a clue about what the current hardware is capable of. I don't mind if it's going to be this kind of "overkill" as long as it fulfils my desires and doesn't blow my budget
However i won't cry if i'm getting away with less to pay.

kihrEx wrote:I'd go with this setup with your budjet

* CPU: i7 4970K ~300€ (case of streaming, videoediting, OC) / i5-4670K ~220€
* Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~110€
* GPU: R9 280X ASUS DCU2 / ASUS GTX770DC2 OC both around 320€
+ other shits with ~400€

zis

bump bump

since i have enuff money now to buy some solid hardware, but the thread is a little bit older, would you still go with the setup mentioned above ?

veitileiN wrote:

kihrEx wrote:I'd go with this setup with your budjet

* CPU: i7 4970K ~300€ (case of streaming, videoediting, OC) / i5-4670K ~220€
* Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~110€
* GPU: R9 280X ASUS DCU2 / ASUS GTX770DC2 OC both around 320€
+ other shits with ~400€

zis

or still suggest to wait like brati said, because new shit is about to be released ?
would it make sense to rather go for some new nvidia maxwell stuff than a good older one ?
halp plis !


edit: maybe it's important to know, shrubby wants to do other stuff with his pc too, but i want this thingy only for gaming :>

burnzilla wrote:bump bump

since i have enuff money now to buy some solid hardware, but the thread is a little bit older, would you still go with the setup mentioned above ?

veitileiN wrote:

kihrEx wrote:I'd go with this setup with your budjet

* CPU: i7 4970K ~300€ (case of streaming, videoediting, OC) / i5-4670K ~220€
* Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~110€
* GPU: R9 280X ASUS DCU2 / ASUS GTX770DC2 OC both around 320€
+ other shits with ~400€

zis

or still suggest to wait like brati said, because new shit is about to be released ?
would it make sense to rather go for some new nvidia maxwell stuff than a good older one ?
halp plis !


edit: maybe it's important to know, shrubby wants to do other stuff with his pc too, but i want this thingy only for gaming :>

yeah i5-4690k with gtx 970 ( 300euro, must have, #maxwell masterrace )
dont go cheap on the mainboard and i would recommend a 512 gb ssd from intel or samsung for quality or something mediocre since it doesnt matter that much ( all are very fast ) AND get a good cooling unit for the k cpu ( ocing is easy then)
for the case you want a silent pc i would go for full water cooling or combination out of asus dc gpu and 2-3 noiseblocker vents

with that setup you will run everything on max details on full hd the next 3-5 years ++++++ the maxwell chip got dsr, it can downsample old games by using nvidia standard drivers this means you can pimp every game to max

I5 4670k
Z87-Pro
nvidia GTX 690 Dual
16 GB ram

enough to play wot on ultra 100+ fps

Aa_Melon wrote:I5 4670k
Z87-Pro
nvidia GTX 690 Dual
16 GB ram

enough to play wot on ultra 100+ fps

whoever buys a gtx 690 nowerdays would just be plain stupid even with kepler managing dual gpu sync kinda nice, i still dislike such cards cuz singlegpu is gpumasterrace

Brati007 wrote:

Aa_Melon wrote:I5 4670k
Z87-Pro
nvidia GTX 690 Dual
16 GB ram

enough to play wot on ultra 100+ fps

whoever buys a gtx 690 nowerdays would just be plain stupid even with kepler managing dual gpu sync kinda nice, i still dislike such cards cuz singlegpu is gpumasterrace

GTX 690 best gaming graphic card confirmed by nvidia themself.
Nobody buys gtx 690 nowadays because they think they higher number it is the better.
The retards who has no idea buys gtx 780ti
There has been a several test between 780ti and 690 where the 780ti wins at quality but 690 pretty much wins at performance.

I have 2 680's which is almost like the 690 and I play on ultra 80+ fps np. Heck sometimes I even play wot while having WT and other games running without even noticing any difference.

Aa_Melon wrote:I have 2 680's which is almost like the 690 and I play on ultra 80+ fps np. Heck sometimes I even play wot while having WT and other games running without even noticing any difference.

because the gpu does not matter in wot

veitileiN wrote:

Aa_Melon wrote:I have 2 680's which is almost like the 690 and I play on ultra 80+ fps np. Heck sometimes I even play wot while having WT and other games running without even noticing any difference.

because the gpu does not matter in wot

Exactly, and that's why this is enough for me
Cheap parts and totally worth it.

I can confirm the GPU does nothing for this game, 7850 to R280X, 0% difference. :d

The parts I said was actually meant for bigger games. I play BF4 on ultra 120 fps.

so i took a first look at the components you suggested and i would probably go with zis configuration:

CPU:
i5 4690k ~200€

GPU:
4096MB ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Retail) ~308€

Mainboard:
Asus Z87-A (C2) Intel Z87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail ~89€

RAM:
8GB G.Skill Ares DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 ~66€

Harddrive:
Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 500GB SATA 6Gb/s ~190€

burnzilla wrote:so i took a first look at the components you suggested and i would probably go with zis configuration:

CPU:
i5 4690k ~200€

GPU:
4096MB ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Retail) ~308€

Mainboard:
Asus Z87-A (C2) Intel Z87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail ~89€

RAM:
8GB G.Skill Ares DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 ~66€

Harddrive:
Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 500GB SATA 6Gb/s ~190€

i'd say a 256gb ssd is enough, get another 1tb hdd for data

yeah i thought of getting a small ssd and bigger hdd, but the price difference is not that big. 250gb is also like 110€ and since i'm having 500gb at the moment and don't really need much more diskspace i'll leave it like that.
i can still upgrade later with an additional hdd.